bodysnatch3r said: i also think that’s why thorin uses it- since he’s pretty sure thranduil would skin him alive if he knew how he was being insulted
Headcanon time! So, the most Khuzdul other races know, if they know any at all, relate to a few place names and battle cries. For me, the fact that dwarves bellow their secret language when they go to war is significant since it implies that there’s no need to worry about whether whoever they’re fighting hears it or not since, if all goes according to plan, they’ll be dead soon.
So, I think a Khuzdul insult, in implication, if not in practice, is essentially a death threat. Which explains why Thranduil was so willing to lock the dwarves up without any kind of actual charge besides not telling him what he wants to hear - Thorin wasn’t just insulting him, he was threatening him, but the threat went much deeper than ‘Die a death of flames,’ the threat is in the language itself, not just the words used.
the reason oppressed groups say “___ are awful” instead of “some ___ are awful” is because including the word “some” allows individuals of that group to detach themselves from the problem and shuck the blame off and say “well they aren’t really talking about me so i can ignore their opinions”, whereas stating that an entire group of oppressors is awful makes the individual think whether or not they’re included in the awfulness of that group and makes them consider their actions so that’s why people say “men are awful” or “white people are awful” and if you take it personally you’re getting angry at the wrong people
I don’t think I ever talked about what his scenes in Laketown, few as they are, do to me. Like how the first thing he does when they hear Smaug is to walk up to Bard and tell him to take his children and go somewhere safe? Or the bit where he straight-up jumps an orc unarmed to keep him from killing said children?
THE FACT THAT HE NEVER GOT TO BE KING HURTS ME IN MY SOUL.
EVERYONE PLEASE. PAY ATTENTION. Especially if you’re Asian.
On January 30th, 2014, California Senate just passed SCA-5, a legislation that would repeal portions of California Proposition 209.
In condensed words, this bill allows schools to DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ASIANS.
To understand SCA 5, we have to remember what Prop. 209 is. In November 1996, Proposition 209 (also known as the California Civil Rights Initiative) amended the state constitution to prohibit state government institutions from discriminating against, or granting preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of public employment , public education, or public contracting. In the 18 years that Prop 209 has been in effect, California has become the most diversified state in the US.
State Senator Ed Hernandez, the one who introduced this bill, claims that due to Prop 209, Non-Asians have a harder time being admitted into state universities.
This bill will ALLOW THE STATE to use RACE, SEX, COLOR, ETHNICITY, OR NATIONAL ORIGIN as a consideration for accepting students or hiring employees. SCA-5 is out to punish Asian-Americans simply because we set the bar too high for getting into schools with high exam scores.
Asian-Americans often need test scores hundreds of points higher than applicants from other ethnic groups to have an equal chance of admission.
This bill goes against EQUAL PROTECTION, our 14th Amendment, as American citizens!
IF WE ALLOW THIS BILL TO PASS. WE HAVE STUNTED GENERATIONS FROM GROWING AND EXPANDING THEIR MINDS, THEIR HORIZONS OF UNDERSTANDING.
IF WE ALLOW THIS BULLSHIT BILL TO PASS, WHO’S NEXT UNTIL THE LAST RACE WHOM IS DEEMED “WORTHY” OF EDUCATION IS LEFT STANDING?!
Xudong Sun, president of American Anhui Association of Scholars and Students, told Xinhua that this legislation is racial and is a serious discrimination against Asian Americans.
He said right now at the University of California and state universities, Asian students account for 36 percent, but Bill SCA-5 would restrict Asians to 13 percent.
He said under-represented minority groups, like African Americans and Hispanics need protection, but such protection should not be made at the expense of Asian Americans.
Please, can you talk about Fili ? Please ? Pleeeeeaaaaase ?
OMG ANON CAN I
Warning: spoilers left and center, if you haven’t read The Hobbit do not read this, you will hate me.
OK so the thing is, I both love and despair at what the movies have done for Fili. I love the fact that they picked up a very, uh, schematic character from the book and officially made him Thorin’s heir and gave us these characterization snippets, like that note in the artbook or whatever it was about how his noble character is reflected in his bearing rather than appearance etc. etc. The fact that they made him the responsible older bro but also kind of cool and laid back and clearly not srs bsns 24/7, gave him a completely distinct look from the Durin-grade dark broody intensity, gave him an actual fucking coat of arms THAT HE IS NEVER GOING TO USE, salt in the wound if you ask me
(also this is just a personal thing, but I am very happy that someone so delightfully leonine was re-cast as Fili. The Sacrificial Lion trope is not going to be even remotely subtle now.)
So basically, they set up every imaginable premise to develop a character whose presence in the story is interesting and significant and offers approximately five million opportunities to further develop other characters interacting with Fili
and then they did
pretty much nothing with him.
Possibly unpopular opinion time: the movies would have improved a lot in terms of character development (see above) if more of Kili’s screentime had gone to Fili. Look, I love Kili and I get why everyone (including the director/writers) love him too. But the focus on him in general, and Thorin’s interactions with him in particular, is disproportionate. When the first movie came out I said jokingly that Thorin’s relationship with his nephews, which Richard Armitage talks about so tenderly, is really just Thorin’s relationship with Kili. WAIT DID I SAY JOKINGLY BECAUSE THEN DOS CAME ALONG AND IT TURNS OUT THIS IS 99% NOT A JOKE.
And it makes no sense narratively, because imagine being the king of an uprooted people, bringing along your heir on the single most important journey either of you is going to make, at a time he’s probably supposed to learn all about kinging. Imagine, like, maybe talking to him sometime. In sentences more complex than ‘Kill the thing’, ‘Please don’t be dead’ and ‘Because I said so’.
Which brings me to my next point: the most important instance (actually the only one, haha) when Fili and Thorin talk to eachother for more than 15 seconds is when Fili defies Thorin in order to stay with his brother. For all that he’s been virtually absent from the story so far, at least this one scene speaks volumes about Fili. And one of those volumes is titled He Would Have Been the Best King Ever.
(I am absolutely not making Thorin the bad guy here, because holy shit, people, can this guy catch a break. I’m talking strictly from a writing/directing perspective.)
Basically in terms of symbolism I think this scene is less about a big brother’s decision to stay behind and look after his little brother and more like an ideological rift between Thorin and Fili? Because on the one hand Kili is Kili is Fili’s brother, but on the other hand Kili is also kind of a stand-in for people who are helpless/can’t really protect themselves, in the same way that Bard is a stand-in for people who want nothing to do with this heroic questing bullshit but are going to be dragged into it all the same. In short, people caught in the crossfire of cock-ups that usually happen when you don’t stop to think about the bigger picture. Or when the bigger picture disregards small details, e.g. real human lives.
I think Thorin’s losing his way begins when he stops thinking about the quest as ‘for my people’/’our home’ and starts thinking in terms of mountain/treasure/Arkenstone. And this is actually done very smartly in the movie, because it’s not a linear progress where it’s all downhill from the moment he shows the first signs of this, but rather Thorin going back and forth between these stages, which makes it all the more heartbreaking. What happens is he starts sacrificing people, symbolically of course, to the quest itself. (‘I will not risk this quest for the life of one’) rather than putting the quest in the service of people, as he started out doing.
Fili does the exact opposite. He sacrifices the quest for the sake of his brother, and you know what’s really really interesting? Three of the people who stay behind in Lake Town and are going to have to deal with the dragon bullshit? Tauriel, Bard and Fili - aka ‘It is our fight’, ‘Ever the people’s champion’ and ‘I belong with my brother’ DO YOU SEE A PATTERN HERE BECAUSE I SEE A PATTERN AND IT’S MAKING ME SAD THAT THE WRITERS DID NOT ARTICULATE IT IN A WAY THAT WOULD DO IT JUSTICE
Basically I’m saying this movie had everything in place, a whole line-up of characters, to support a side-narrative about the new challenging the old, action challenging stagnation, responsibility challenging isolation and people challenging ideas gone wrong. Like, the concept is sort of there, lurking in the back and probably slightly nervous about someone noticing it. But it’s not going anywhere. At no point does the plot suggest that hey THESE THREE SPECIFIC CHARACTERS are specifically in this place that is at its core vulnerable and populated by NPCs that can’t protect themselves and there’s a dragon on the way, have you considered the fact that this is 800% not a coincidence.
Thorin’s tragedy is that he loses sight of what Fili (and Tauriel and Bard) is starting to, or has been seeing for a while. And it’s out of his hands, it’s happening because the gold sickness takes over his mind, not because he chooses to. Because Thorin might be broody and complicated and not always, in this story, A+ king material, but he is still fundamentally good.
It’s difficult to tell what would have happened if he’d survived in the end, I mean, obviously he’s back to himself on his death bed, but even so, if he’d lived knowing that he’s already touched by the gold sickness, I think it’s difficult to tell whether he would have forfeited the throne.
If Fili had lived too, he would have made an amazing king, then or later.
TL;DR Fili is a fantastic character. Fili in DoS is a legit king figure of the King for the People variety and it could have gone wonderfully from here, except it won’t because this franchise feeds on misery and the tears of the many.
Sigrid being all ‘Dad why is there a bunch of dwarves climbing out of our privy’ but you can hear it in her voice, she’s wary but not exactly surprised, because you know her dad the town smuggler has brought weirder things home and she’s just trying to live with it. She’s not quite there, but she’s on the way to learning how to take it in stride, and she’s definitely future withering cynicism tired-of-life material. Like, fine there’s dwarves coming from the privy, whatever, just don’t drip all over my fucking floor.
TILDA WOULD BE BEST BROS WITH ALL THE DWARVES. ALL OF THEM. Cause remember when they show up her primary concern is not ‘There’s strangers in our bathroom’ but ‘Will they bring us luck?’ She’d go around with hot drinks and chat with everyone and she’d have an instant connection with Bofur and Bifur and the Durin bros and she’d want to know everything about hobbits and she’d make all of them swear on their honour/beards/blood of their ancestors that they’ll invite her to visit Erebor and the Shire when this is over. Even Thorin, who’s a total sourpuss and all why is the small human addressing me, even he wouldn’t have the heart to be grunty and uncivil. So maybe he tells a story about Erebor or something, or adds some details to a story Balin’s saying, IDK EVERYONE LIKES TILDA.
(Also Fili trying to work his charms on Sigrid because he wants to ask if she’ll lend him a couple of kitchen knives until he can get his hands on some proper weapons and she just sighs and produces a pair of the meanest motherfucking knives imaginable like, ‘Will these work *shink*’ And Fili’s like whoa whoa whoa what do you do with these and Sigrid’s like ‘I… chop vegetables?’ And if we’re being 120% honest Fili’s probably a little bit in love at this point because he might be the Casanova of all dwarf ladies everywhere, but dude, the race of men sometimes gets it right and Fili is an equal opportunity flirter.)
“If there was any justice, Black Widow would have stolen James Bond’s franchise by now, never mind gotten her own. Black Widow could bring us the superespionage movie. A story of intelligence trumping extrahumanity, where all-powerful idiots are countered by cunning instead of by someone who’s even better at being a hammer.”—Luke McKinney, 5 Superheroes Who Should’ve Gotten Movies Before Ant-Man (via fuckyeahblackwidow)